
# | Data |
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最高順位 | 2位 |
最低順位 | 50位 |
増加再生回数 | +338419回 |
ランクイン日時 | 2020/08/31 19:00 |
ランク圏外日時 | 2020/09/02 22:45 |
急上昇継続時間 | 2日03時間45分 |
再生回数 | 354137回 |
コメント数 | 4347件 |
高評価数 | 27313 |
低評価数 | 746 |
評価数合計 | 28059 |
高評価割合 | 97.34% |
※再生回数, コメント数, 高評価数, 低評価数, 評価数合計, 高評価割合は初回ランクイン時の数値
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2020/08/31 19:00 | 2位 | 354137回 |
2020/09/01 12:30 | 8位 | 606348回 |
2020/09/01 13:30 | 9位 | 611565回 |
2020/09/01 18:45 | 10位 | 635217回 |
2020/09/01 20:00 | 11位 | 639295回 |
2020/09/01 23:45 | 12位 | 651408回 |
2020/09/02 2:45 | 13位 | 661955回 |
2020/09/02 3:00 | 14位 | 662553回 |
2020/09/02 11:15 | 21位 | 678287回 |
2020/09/02 12:30 | 28位 | 679660回 |
2020/09/02 14:45 | 42位 | 682768回 |
2020/09/02 16:00 | 44位 | 684215回 |
2020/09/02 17:30 | 45位 | 685771回 |
2020/09/02 18:00 | 46位 | 686229回 |
2020/09/02 18:45 | 50位 | 687699回 |
2020/09/02 22:45 | 50位 | 692556回 |
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1: L
2020/08/31 13:05
Man, situations like these are just crushing. I really hope that Aloe isn't gonna be dragged down by this in what ever she does in the future. It really hurts to know that we as fans can't do more besides show support. It hurts to see someone who was so close to achieve what was a dream to them just lose it all because of others ill intent.
2: RealisticPatrickFace
2020/08/31 13:17
Why do antis exist? Do they really have no such empathy for others? Do they really have to go so far to harass someone? Why can't they just leave them alone? I don't understand. Why can't they just leave them alone? Why barge into someone's personal life just to harass them? What good does it benefit for them? I don't understand. Do they just enjoy seeing people they've harassed go into a weak state? Why?
Just, why?
I don't want to express my anger, but antis are some of the lowest scum on the internet, I don't know what they've personally been through, but they shouldn't vent their issues onto others. We're all human, no one is superior or inferior. Just because you're on the internet, doesn't mean you should act superior upon all others. This place is suppose to bring shared happiness to everyone, not selfish happiness to one or a few. I really despise antis more than ever now.
Just, why?
I don't want to express my anger, but antis are some of the lowest scum on the internet, I don't know what they've personally been through, but they shouldn't vent their issues onto others. We're all human, no one is superior or inferior. Just because you're on the internet, doesn't mean you should act superior upon all others. This place is suppose to bring shared happiness to everyone, not selfish happiness to one or a few. I really despise antis more than ever now.
3: Tenchou
2020/08/31 13:28
Such a shame.. she had so much potential too, the vocaloid themed singing holo member, that smug voice, the giggles.. maybe in an alternate tineline she still streaming for us... I hope for the best
4: P in the Face
2020/08/31 13:17
To be honest, it may have turned out better if Aloe's comment section could share at least half of the positivity of JP comments here..
5: Lazy Bastard
2020/08/31 13:18
If anything ever made me feel like leaving the rabbit hole, it's this.
The harassers and doxxers got what they wanted while their victim, Aloe, had to give up Hololive (and god knows if she will be able to recover after this considering they got her personal info).
The apology video still has an immense amount of dislikes regardless of all the support it received from the overseas community. Of course I'm not blaming all japanese fans for what happened, but this is definitely a problem within the japanese community and denying that doesn't help.
I'll try to keep supporting them, specially seeing how sad the other 5th gen members are about her departure. But it will be hard not to be constantly reminded of this moment...
The harassers and doxxers got what they wanted while their victim, Aloe, had to give up Hololive (and god knows if she will be able to recover after this considering they got her personal info).
The apology video still has an immense amount of dislikes regardless of all the support it received from the overseas community. Of course I'm not blaming all japanese fans for what happened, but this is definitely a problem within the japanese community and denying that doesn't help.
I'll try to keep supporting them, specially seeing how sad the other 5th gen members are about her departure. But it will be hard not to be constantly reminded of this moment...
6: Allen Winters
2020/08/31 13:32
People takes their "internet life" way too seriously, Mano Aloe is just working.
She made mistakes but who's gonna say that in their life they never makes mistakes ?
She tried to be a good entertainer and yet got bullied by these toxic people that claims they're "supporting" but still cant differentiate between work and personal life.
Me, myself is not actually a fans of her but still these kinda things upset me how people could go miles away just to mock people.
She made mistakes but who's gonna say that in their life they never makes mistakes ?
She tried to be a good entertainer and yet got bullied by these toxic people that claims they're "supporting" but still cant differentiate between work and personal life.
Me, myself is not actually a fans of her but still these kinda things upset me how people could go miles away just to mock people.
7: Yuxor Senpai
2020/08/31 16:02
Aquí un fan de Hololive de España. Conozco Hololive desde hace tres meses y esta es la primera vez que comento en uno de sus vídeos. De verdad que me ha dolido ver cómo ha terminado todo. Pobre Aloe... Seguro que será muy frustrate para ella y para las demás chicas de la 5ta gen. Y ya no digamos si eso ha provocado que la pobre chica pueda desarrollar algún trauma... Por lo que he podido leer (corregidme si me equivoco) a las chicas se les presenta la oportunidad de entrar en Hololive unos meses o semanas antes. Pensar en la ilusión y en el esfuerzo que tuvo que hacer para preparar todo durante ese tiempo solo por sacarnos una sonrisa... me parte el corazón, en serio. En parte comprendo esa ilusión. Lo digo porque hace unos años tuve un canal pequeño con un poquito de audiencia. Pero por motivos personales lo dejé y lo borré. La ilusión de crear tus vídeos o tus directos, y que la gente lo disfrute, es una maravilla. Si yo lo disfrutaba siendo un canal insignificante no me puedo imaginar lo doloroso que será para alguien como ella haber perdido esta oportunidad y esta gran familia por esa panda de idiotas.
Te esperamos con ganas estas dos semanas. Queriamos haberte visto de nuevo. Pero aunque nos duela que no podamos verte más aceptamos tu decisión, Aloe. Gracias por los momentos que nos has hecho pasar, aunque sean pocos. Me uno a todos nuestros hermanos japoneses y del mundo para desearte que te vaya bien en la vida. Ahora mismo da igual quien tenga la culpa por aquellos errores que pasaron, quienes tienen que pagar por todo esto son esos antis de mierda.
También estoy de acuerdo con los demás en que lo mejor que podemos hacer ahora es apoyar a las demás chicas, sobretodo a las de la 5ta gen. Todos estamos sufriendo, y ellas todavía más. Son seres humanos, por lo que aunque se hagan las fuertes sufrirán por dentro. Tampoco hace falta que les recordemos este tema a ninguna chica de Hololive. Simplemente sigamos viendo y apoyando sus vídeos, por favor. No dejemos que los antis ni los haters se salgan con la suya.
¡Un abrazo enorme para todos desde España!
Te esperamos con ganas estas dos semanas. Queriamos haberte visto de nuevo. Pero aunque nos duela que no podamos verte más aceptamos tu decisión, Aloe. Gracias por los momentos que nos has hecho pasar, aunque sean pocos. Me uno a todos nuestros hermanos japoneses y del mundo para desearte que te vaya bien en la vida. Ahora mismo da igual quien tenga la culpa por aquellos errores que pasaron, quienes tienen que pagar por todo esto son esos antis de mierda.
También estoy de acuerdo con los demás en que lo mejor que podemos hacer ahora es apoyar a las demás chicas, sobretodo a las de la 5ta gen. Todos estamos sufriendo, y ellas todavía más. Son seres humanos, por lo que aunque se hagan las fuertes sufrirán por dentro. Tampoco hace falta que les recordemos este tema a ninguna chica de Hololive. Simplemente sigamos viendo y apoyando sus vídeos, por favor. No dejemos que los antis ni los haters se salgan con la suya.
¡Un abrazo enorme para todos desde España!
8: Sebastian Gomez
2020/08/31 15:38
For the hope Aloe's presence, talent, heart, soul, but most of all, her strong testimony (that became a reality) will be carried on towards the future not just by the overseas community, but by the Japanese community as well. Together, we should be building towards a better community in which the performers don't have to strive for something as inhumane as trying to be perfect just to keep a small minority in check, while we, the fans shouldn't be demanding unreasonable endeavors and making the job of bringing laughs and happiness become a job that implicates that at some point they must mortify themselves just to maintain an illusion that will only feed those incompetent enough to believe that this stage is the one and only reality, when it is not.
9: イゴール igor
2020/08/31 14:13
it feels like a death. we're never going to see her again, or hear her again.
my only comfort is that she's alive and well. And that she will someday move on
my only comfort is that she's alive and well. And that she will someday move on
10: Mecchan Otaku
2020/08/31 15:37
To Gen 5: Take as much time as you need to let your sadness and anger over this whole situation out. And don't worry about your own careers. We'll support you 100%.
To Aloe if she ever reads this: I hope you'll be okay. I respect and understand your decision to leave Hololive after what happened, and I hope you can recover from this. You deserve to.
To Aloe's fans: Don't be discouraged because she left despite your efforts. She likely would have left no matter what. What those people that harrassed her did must have hurt her so deeply that she decided to just give up. I'm sure once she calms down she'll end up looking back fondly on the people that cared.
To the harrassers, antis and toxic fans alike: I hope you get what's coming to you. You disgust me. Do you enjoy making people suffer? Did you smile when Lamy was holding back tears giving her feelings on this matter? Did you rejoice when Aloe broke down so hard she gave up on her dream? Is that the kind of people you are? Is it? You guys are literal sadists and I hope you go to the special place in Hell reserved for people like you. If any of you do feel remorse for this, learn from this and do better, and I fucking mean do better. I can't forgive you for what you have done, and I'm a very forgiving person so that's saying a lot, but if you feel remorse for this then I hope you can change for the better, but never forget what you have done.
To Aloe if she ever reads this: I hope you'll be okay. I respect and understand your decision to leave Hololive after what happened, and I hope you can recover from this. You deserve to.
To Aloe's fans: Don't be discouraged because she left despite your efforts. She likely would have left no matter what. What those people that harrassed her did must have hurt her so deeply that she decided to just give up. I'm sure once she calms down she'll end up looking back fondly on the people that cared.
To the harrassers, antis and toxic fans alike: I hope you get what's coming to you. You disgust me. Do you enjoy making people suffer? Did you smile when Lamy was holding back tears giving her feelings on this matter? Did you rejoice when Aloe broke down so hard she gave up on her dream? Is that the kind of people you are? Is it? You guys are literal sadists and I hope you go to the special place in Hell reserved for people like you. If any of you do feel remorse for this, learn from this and do better, and I fucking mean do better. I can't forgive you for what you have done, and I'm a very forgiving person so that's saying a lot, but if you feel remorse for this then I hope you can change for the better, but never forget what you have done.
11: Number Zero
2020/08/31 14:57
Best wishes to the person behind Mano Aloe in whatever she chooses to pursue in the future. Rather than cry, we should all keep our heads up and continue to stay positive for the rest of the girls. Don't forget this moment. Live on knowing that Mano Aloe did exist. As cringey as this maybe, it is my honest feelings. Let this be a lesson learned of the dangers of spreading private info. If you find any of the sort, please just keep it to yourself and don't go mentioning it to the world. Best wishes to both the remaining of 5th generation and most importantly, the person who was Mano Aloe.
12: Ben Quincy-Shaw
2020/08/31 16:45
It's awful how cruel people can be. Poor Aloe. She was just getting started and had it all taken away by haters. My heart goes out to her and I wish her all the best.
Polka sounds especially distraught, might've been through something similar in the past. Botan is very strong here, she should be proud.
Polka sounds especially distraught, might've been through something similar in the past. Botan is very strong here, she should be proud.
13: Steven _TH
2020/08/31 14:42
the fact that she retired by herself, make me scared that she actually got traumatized by this.
14: hairanndo2002
2020/08/31 13:33
The job of Vtuber is still minor in Japan and sometimes she keeps it a secret from her friends and family.
Even if she was positive about her return at first, there is a possibility that her family, relatives, and the other person's family may have been exposed and opposed to her in this mess.
It's very disappointing because she would have been traumatized herself.
Of course, it is a crime to identify and misuse personal information.
Even if she was positive about her return at first, there is a possibility that her family, relatives, and the other person's family may have been exposed and opposed to her in this mess.
It's very disappointing because she would have been traumatized herself.
Of course, it is a crime to identify and misuse personal information.
15: Douangsavanh Phimmasone
2020/08/31 13:04
now who to blame for this? most people will say it's Aloe herself because it's her decision, but we all know that it's all because of the toxic hater people out there, only if everyone forgive her mistake and support her, making her feel good and confident in coming back this entire story would not even happen in the first place
so in conclusion, blame those hater out there, cursed those people who did that to Aloe
so in conclusion, blame those hater out there, cursed those people who did that to Aloe
16: BrokenTV2026
2020/08/31 14:09
Wow... this is truly heartbreaking.
Honestly, she may not be the one I was interested out of all Gen.5, but I did find her interesting and unique, with a charming personality bringing the vocaloid scene in her singing, it was something no other member had tried before so I was looking up to see how it'll develop overtime and how she interacts with the other members.
At first I though it was gonna end well with her comming back and leaving all the controversy as something to laugh or a bad memory, not her graduating from hololive and leaving. And speaking of the whole controversy, they went too far.
I understand that she forgot to delete the testing video and the nijisanji part, but that didn't justified leaking her identity, doxxing and sending her threats, that was excesive and an overreaction from a toxic part of the community who did it with malicious intent.
But for now, I hope the rest of the members are well, they know we overseas fans and japanese bros support them, and want the best for them. As for Aloe's VA, I hope she's ok and manages to overcome this whole situation and lives her life to the fullest.
And as for the community, don't let this situation divide us causing conflict betwen the overseas and japanese bros, it was just a small group who got the intention to do it so let just leave it as it is, a small goup, what we can do is give our support to all the other members so they don't worry about the situation.
Goodbye Aloe, you may be gone... but you will not be forgotten.
Honestly, she may not be the one I was interested out of all Gen.5, but I did find her interesting and unique, with a charming personality bringing the vocaloid scene in her singing, it was something no other member had tried before so I was looking up to see how it'll develop overtime and how she interacts with the other members.
At first I though it was gonna end well with her comming back and leaving all the controversy as something to laugh or a bad memory, not her graduating from hololive and leaving. And speaking of the whole controversy, they went too far.
I understand that she forgot to delete the testing video and the nijisanji part, but that didn't justified leaking her identity, doxxing and sending her threats, that was excesive and an overreaction from a toxic part of the community who did it with malicious intent.
But for now, I hope the rest of the members are well, they know we overseas fans and japanese bros support them, and want the best for them. As for Aloe's VA, I hope she's ok and manages to overcome this whole situation and lives her life to the fullest.
And as for the community, don't let this situation divide us causing conflict betwen the overseas and japanese bros, it was just a small group who got the intention to do it so let just leave it as it is, a small goup, what we can do is give our support to all the other members so they don't worry about the situation.
Goodbye Aloe, you may be gone... but you will not be forgotten.
17: Stephanaccio Lostcrown
2020/08/31 17:50
Someone in the live chat said "She didn't even have a chance." And that's so true it makes me feel weird. To think the mass can turn their back on you so quickly, this is cold. Stars in entertainment must face a lot of harrassment and this can pretty much decide whether your career goes on or die. But at least, stars must be provided with protection or something. But I learnt that it's not the case for idols.
Lamy and Nene sounded devastated and Botan and Polka must have repressed a lot.
Sorry for Aloe's career, but honestly, as long as she's safe and sound, I'm fine. That's unfair but that doesn't mean it's over for her. My hopes for her so she can find a way to take back what she earned, if she wants to.
Lamy and Nene sounded devastated and Botan and Polka must have repressed a lot.
Sorry for Aloe's career, but honestly, as long as she's safe and sound, I'm fine. That's unfair but that doesn't mean it's over for her. My hopes for her so she can find a way to take back what she earned, if she wants to.
18: Shining Aster
2020/08/31 13:56
As someone who had there infomation compromised, I understand all too well how much a mental strain it can do to someone. It's terrifying. It make you want to cry. It suffocates you in the safety of your own home. It hurts.
So, all I can say is, I hope Aloe finds someone, anyone to talk to with it. I hope she finds happiness again with what she loves.
It's a terrible day to rain...
So, all I can say is, I hope Aloe finds someone, anyone to talk to with it. I hope she finds happiness again with what she loves.
It's a terrible day to rain...
19: Amaleane
2020/08/31 14:58
Я: Ох, последний день перед началом учёбы
Ютуб: Пришло время разрушить его карьеру
Жаль Алое, она была миленькой и я ждал, когда она снова начнёт стримить, но не дождался. Грусно
Ютуб: Пришло время разрушить его карьеру
Жаль Алое, она была миленькой и я ждал, когда она снова начнёт стримить, но не дождался. Грусно
20: Onii-Chan
2020/08/31 14:29
She worked so hard for it too... and then some incel decides to ruin it for her, thanks for making 2020 even worse I guess.
21: Captain crunch
2020/08/31 13:02
Damn man...2020 really doesn't give any of us a rest huh...I hope she's doing ok
22: tom mike
2020/08/31 13:05
Lamy crying broke my heart...
Botan was trying her best to be strong for the rest of Holofive too...
Botan was trying her best to be strong for the rest of Holofive too...
23: 渡辺港
2020/08/31 13:50
The most frustrating thing about this situation is that even though we knew the truth (that video doesn't have any personal information leakage or important company policies but just pure worried), we can not do a fcking things, if the information she 'leaked' is severe then this must be a contract termination, not a graduation (voluntarily), the lies have already spread to a point that it's just hopeless to find a way through all this mess. I myself had already watch that video and yea, ironically, what she fears the most had become reality. In a way, you can say those antis haters had realized her word
24: RumblePak
2020/08/31 15:32
I hope Aloe and her family and friends will be okay. Japan has very little or no laws against bullying/harassment especially related to cyber bullying. Its a bad cycle that has no repercussions. Perhaps sometime in the near future Japan will start addressing this type of danger that other parts of the world have already started to tackle. Its sad news but my wish will be for Aloe to still lead a full life ahead.
25: Алексей Калачев
2020/08/31 15:03
Well... That's sad. While Aloe wasn't my favourite in gen5, seeing someone's career ruined by crapheads is never pleasant. Sure, she did a mistake, but honestly, I'll probably never understand people that haunt others for a slipups which don't really harm anyone. My condolences to Shishiron, Lamy, Nene and Polka for losing a comrade that early in. And although I don't usually carry the ill intent to unfamiliar people, I cincerely hope that antis behind this whole situation will have their last laugh before some heavy sh¡t falls on THEIR own heads. Wanna see them try to shrug it off then. Also, to commend Botan, it takes either indifference or hell of a self restraint to maintain calm speech when you speak of losses. And this doesn't seem like former. I hope you girls stay safe. I think it's gonna be obvious, but i'm gonna put a like to this video as a supportive mean, not because i like that Aloe graduated...
26: Nate The Great
2020/08/31 13:55
I wish her well. I truly do. Even with the antis, we need to band together and send her as much love as possible. If anything can come out of this shitty situation, I want it to be rememberance and compassion for this innocent woman who was bullied out of a dream. While it's not a lot, Aloe, if you are reading or can read this, I'm behind you no matter what you choose to do. And I'm sorry for these fucking degenerates doxing and harassing you to such a degree you had to retire. Stay safe, stay strong, and to everyone in fifth gen, including Aloe, keep being great. No matter what anyone says or does, you're bringing smiles to our faces and I have nothing but respect for you guys.
And with that, let's not forget to love each other. Goodbye Aloe, you will be missed. And thank you Botan and the rest, the update was very much appreciated and I wish the best for the four of you despite this situation.
And with that, let's not forget to love each other. Goodbye Aloe, you will be missed. And thank you Botan and the rest, the update was very much appreciated and I wish the best for the four of you despite this situation.
27: Pineapple Man
2020/08/31 13:29
I feel like this vid will be private or deleted we need to save this
28: E・HERO エアーマン
2020/08/31 13:14
I guess the 5th gen can't be called HoloFive anymore, but Aloe's has already made her choice, thus all the fans can do now is to respect her decision.
And huge respect for Botan as well for moderating this video.
And huge respect for Botan as well for moderating this video.
29: イゴール igor
2020/08/31 14:03
it really does hurt
seeing someone's dream, objectives, aspirations
just be destroyed like that
i hope from the bottom of my heart that she will be okay...
seeing someone's dream, objectives, aspirations
just be destroyed like that
i hope from the bottom of my heart that she will be okay...
30: V.I.P. PyroTM
2020/08/31 14:09
This can’t be happening... I was ready to give the biggest support I can for her to come back happily.
But I can understand her reason for leaving, we can’t blame her for that. Damn those haters to hell...
I wish Aloe-chan to be happy and strong and maybe one day, we’ll see her in another character...
But I can understand her reason for leaving, we can’t blame her for that. Damn those haters to hell...
I wish Aloe-chan to be happy and strong and maybe one day, we’ll see her in another character...
31: fat bro
2020/08/31 16:43
5h gen girls, please continue supporting and helping the person behind Mano Aloe, she will need all the help she can get to get back on her feet.
32: Unsapient
2020/08/31 18:19
The only silver lining to me is that, given that this was largely Aloe's decision, there may perhaps be a *tiny* sliver of a chance that she will be able to fully come back (ala Sasaki Saku) if and when she is much better place mentally and emotionally.
Of course this is not something anybody should *expect* to happen, just a little wishful thinking... 😞
Of course this is not something anybody should *expect* to happen, just a little wishful thinking... 😞
33: Hakimaris
2020/08/31 13:48
Just when i thought 5th gen save 2020, this happen
F
F
34: TitanX84
2020/08/31 16:08
Lamy-mama lost a child. This breaks my heart. Stay strong, girls. ❤️
35: Square Unique
2020/08/31 15:48
Damn man, those hater really ruined someone future.
36: 不乱虎レン
2020/08/31 14:45
Non-japanese fanbase: *I'll never forgive the japanese*
Jokes aside, if she redebuts as a new vtuber in the future, I'll give her full support without looking at her past unlike some japanese doxxers/fanbase that only see her background relationship and not her hardwork to entertain people.
Jokes aside, if she redebuts as a new vtuber in the future, I'll give her full support without looking at her past unlike some japanese doxxers/fanbase that only see her background relationship and not her hardwork to entertain people.
37: Abednego Shigure
2020/08/31 14:54
I just waiting for 2 week to celebrate Mano Aloe come back. but what I got, yeah congrats for antis. You all antis have done with the doxxing. May God forgive you but we not.
38: Kurt Pecson
2020/08/31 16:38
Such a different atmosphere here, i thought everything is fine now since Hololive is of the thing that helped me from this shitty year.
When 5th gen got announced i was so excited but then when this happened, it just breaks me emotionally, i hope Aloe's fine, let's just respect her decision.
I hope 5th gen continue working hard.
When 5th gen got announced i was so excited but then when this happened, it just breaks me emotionally, i hope Aloe's fine, let's just respect her decision.
I hope 5th gen continue working hard.
39: ユートピア
2020/08/31 15:15
なんというか…複雑な気分だから一意見を述べさせていただく。
今回のような件でファンに求められていたのは、残酷な全肯定ではなく、反省を促したうえで、受け入れる姿勢を示すことだったと私は考えます。
人には誰にでも変わる権利、成長する権利があります、その権利は奪ってはならないものだと思います。
そのためにも、運営さんと協力したうえで、謝罪、経緯の説明、原因分析、具体的な今後の改善策の提示をしっかり行い、次へ飛躍する土台を作るべきだと考えます。
様々な意見や批判もあることでしょう。しかし、悪意しかない言葉、他者を考えていない批判、他者を思った上での将来を見据えた手厳しい批判、反省を促したうえでの励まし、とりあえずの全肯定、などなどの中から拾うべきものは取捨選択できるはずです。言葉にも価値や質はあると私は考えています。
多くの人の目にふれる以上、多種多様な反響はあるものだと思います。どうか頑張りすぎず、待ち望んで応援している人の声が届きますように。
今回のような件でファンに求められていたのは、残酷な全肯定ではなく、反省を促したうえで、受け入れる姿勢を示すことだったと私は考えます。
人には誰にでも変わる権利、成長する権利があります、その権利は奪ってはならないものだと思います。
そのためにも、運営さんと協力したうえで、謝罪、経緯の説明、原因分析、具体的な今後の改善策の提示をしっかり行い、次へ飛躍する土台を作るべきだと考えます。
様々な意見や批判もあることでしょう。しかし、悪意しかない言葉、他者を考えていない批判、他者を思った上での将来を見据えた手厳しい批判、反省を促したうえでの励まし、とりあえずの全肯定、などなどの中から拾うべきものは取捨選択できるはずです。言葉にも価値や質はあると私は考えています。
多くの人の目にふれる以上、多種多様な反響はあるものだと思います。どうか頑張りすぎず、待ち望んで応援している人の声が届きますように。
40: Ryu
2020/08/31 13:12
海外の方(@Sprakenheit)のコメントが胸に響いたので意訳させてください。
Let me translate and post an English comment touching for me.
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今回の件から、VTuberのプライベートな情報が漏れ、広がることがどれほど危険で、どういった結果につながり得るのかが分かったと思います。
たった1つの情報の漏洩が、彼らや彼女たちの仕事のみならず私生活を脅かし、またトラウマを与える結果となりえます。例え冗談としてであったり、におわせる程度であったとしても、それを知った悪意のあるひとの行動や意思をコントロールできない以上、深刻な結果につながることがあります。VTuberの後ろには感情を持ち実際に生活を営んでいる現実の人間がいることを忘れず、またそれを尊重し守ろうという意識が大事です。VTuberは楽しい幸福な時間を提供してくれる存在であり、我々は思慮深くあることでその活動を支援し守ることができます。
Let me translate and post an English comment touching for me.
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今回の件から、VTuberのプライベートな情報が漏れ、広がることがどれほど危険で、どういった結果につながり得るのかが分かったと思います。
たった1つの情報の漏洩が、彼らや彼女たちの仕事のみならず私生活を脅かし、またトラウマを与える結果となりえます。例え冗談としてであったり、におわせる程度であったとしても、それを知った悪意のあるひとの行動や意思をコントロールできない以上、深刻な結果につながることがあります。VTuberの後ろには感情を持ち実際に生活を営んでいる現実の人間がいることを忘れず、またそれを尊重し守ろうという意識が大事です。VTuberは楽しい幸福な時間を提供してくれる存在であり、我々は思慮深くあることでその活動を支援し守ることができます。
41: AlfReDo
2020/08/31 16:03
Para los que no pueden leer la traducción en inglés aquí les va en español para que entiendan
0:42
Botan: Algunos de usted ya sabrán y algunos otros no, así que queremos tomarnos un momento para hablar de nuestra amiga Mano Aloe.
Hace unas horas, HOLOLIVE publico un escrito anunciando sobre el retiro de Aloe.
Estábamos listas para recibirla de regreso, pero al escuchar sobre su condición física y mental, decidimos respetar su decisión al respecto.
Todas tenemos sentimientos complejos y estamos muy tristes por lo que sucedió pero las cuatro que quedamos, tendremos que esforzarnos más para salir adelante y hacerlo de la mejor manera posible.
Ahora, las demás compartirán sus comentarios acerca de la situación y lo que pensando de esto.
Hay fans que están preocupados por nuestro bien estar así que tomaremos esta oportunidad para expresarnos bien.
Lamy: Perdona, esto sucedió tan repentinamente y nuestras mentes todavía no se han acoplado.
Sentimos un gran pesar, pero tenemos que seguir trabajando duro y dar lo mejor de nosotras
Nene: Nos preparábamos para su regreso, con la esperanza de hacer colaboraciones juntas. Ella probablemente tuvo una experiencia muy dura y no podemos intervenir en una decisión tan personal cómo esta así que decidimos hacer lo que pudiéramos
Polka: Yo estaba muy preocupada por ella, y todavía lo estoy.
Solo quedamos nosotras cuatro, pero se que tenemos que salir adelante.
Tenemos a nuestras senpais que nos apoyan y por eso tenemos que esforzarnos mas aún. Espero que continúen apoyándonos
Botan: Ahora, se que yo sueno muy calmada pero es porque mi trabajo ahorita es de moderadora pero yo también comparto los mismos sentimientos que mis colegas.
Todos es muy complejo pero lo que si es importante es que le pongamos empeño a lo que hacemos mucho mas.
Con esto, para calmar nuestras emociones después de este stream, vamos a cancelar nuestos streams agendados para más tarde, lo sentimos mucho.
Vamos a hacer todo lo posible para poder hacer los streams mañana y traer sonrisas a sus rostros, así que por favor esperen un día nada mas.
Fue corto pero terminaremos el stream aqui, muchas gracias y perdón por la molestia
Esto ha sido muy duro para ellas así que por favor no comenten nada acerca de lo que paso con Aloe en sus futuros streams porque es un tema sensible.
0:42
Botan: Algunos de usted ya sabrán y algunos otros no, así que queremos tomarnos un momento para hablar de nuestra amiga Mano Aloe.
Hace unas horas, HOLOLIVE publico un escrito anunciando sobre el retiro de Aloe.
Estábamos listas para recibirla de regreso, pero al escuchar sobre su condición física y mental, decidimos respetar su decisión al respecto.
Todas tenemos sentimientos complejos y estamos muy tristes por lo que sucedió pero las cuatro que quedamos, tendremos que esforzarnos más para salir adelante y hacerlo de la mejor manera posible.
Ahora, las demás compartirán sus comentarios acerca de la situación y lo que pensando de esto.
Hay fans que están preocupados por nuestro bien estar así que tomaremos esta oportunidad para expresarnos bien.
Lamy: Perdona, esto sucedió tan repentinamente y nuestras mentes todavía no se han acoplado.
Sentimos un gran pesar, pero tenemos que seguir trabajando duro y dar lo mejor de nosotras
Nene: Nos preparábamos para su regreso, con la esperanza de hacer colaboraciones juntas. Ella probablemente tuvo una experiencia muy dura y no podemos intervenir en una decisión tan personal cómo esta así que decidimos hacer lo que pudiéramos
Polka: Yo estaba muy preocupada por ella, y todavía lo estoy.
Solo quedamos nosotras cuatro, pero se que tenemos que salir adelante.
Tenemos a nuestras senpais que nos apoyan y por eso tenemos que esforzarnos mas aún. Espero que continúen apoyándonos
Botan: Ahora, se que yo sueno muy calmada pero es porque mi trabajo ahorita es de moderadora pero yo también comparto los mismos sentimientos que mis colegas.
Todos es muy complejo pero lo que si es importante es que le pongamos empeño a lo que hacemos mucho mas.
Con esto, para calmar nuestras emociones después de este stream, vamos a cancelar nuestos streams agendados para más tarde, lo sentimos mucho.
Vamos a hacer todo lo posible para poder hacer los streams mañana y traer sonrisas a sus rostros, así que por favor esperen un día nada mas.
Fue corto pero terminaremos el stream aqui, muchas gracias y perdón por la molestia
Esto ha sido muy duro para ellas así que por favor no comenten nada acerca de lo que paso con Aloe en sus futuros streams porque es un tema sensible.
42: Lordus Doggos
2020/08/31 13:50
Me: Ah class was quite stressful today
Depressing news: Hey there fam...
Depressing news: Hey there fam...
43: Pan
2020/08/31 17:18
The stream now has official English CC.
44: Nina
2020/08/31 17:31
5:57
みんなを笑顔にする配信はやってる本人が心から笑ってくれないと出来ないから、無理して笑おうとしないで、気持ちが落ち着くまで休んでもいいと思う。
コメント欄見てて思ったんだけど、ホロライブや
5期生を応援する人は応援して、応援できないって人がいるなら、傷ついてる人への無意味な誹謗中傷は誰も喜ばないし、傷つけるだけだから控えるべきだと思う。
最後に、
魔乃アロエがしたことに対して批判するのは当然だし、批判を真摯に受け止めるのが当人の義務でもある。
その上で引退を本人が決めたんだから、
一人の人間としてその判断を評価して、仕方の
無いことだと割り切って5期生の事を応援して
いくべきなんじゃないかなと思います。
これからも応援していきたいと思います。
頑張ってください。
長くなってしまってすみません…
みんなを笑顔にする配信はやってる本人が心から笑ってくれないと出来ないから、無理して笑おうとしないで、気持ちが落ち着くまで休んでもいいと思う。
コメント欄見てて思ったんだけど、ホロライブや
5期生を応援する人は応援して、応援できないって人がいるなら、傷ついてる人への無意味な誹謗中傷は誰も喜ばないし、傷つけるだけだから控えるべきだと思う。
最後に、
魔乃アロエがしたことに対して批判するのは当然だし、批判を真摯に受け止めるのが当人の義務でもある。
その上で引退を本人が決めたんだから、
一人の人間としてその判断を評価して、仕方の
無いことだと割り切って5期生の事を応援して
いくべきなんじゃないかなと思います。
これからも応援していきたいと思います。
頑張ってください。
長くなってしまってすみません…
45: Night Sky
2020/08/31 15:09
The thumbnail, hurts..
46: MomonKusa
2020/08/31 13:43
I just woke up and then i heard this sad news. It's make me really sad
Best wishes for aloe and i hope the 5th gen members can get well soon cause i know how hurt and sad they are from this stream
Best wishes for aloe and i hope the 5th gen members can get well soon cause i know how hurt and sad they are from this stream
47: Carlo Licuanan
2020/08/31 14:45
This hurts me more than the scores from my college exams.
48: PsicoGothic
2020/08/31 14:52
this news leaves a huge hole in my heart 😢
49: 蓮季
2020/08/31 13:03
誹謗中傷と批判の区別が曖昧になってる人も多かったんじゃないかなと思います。今は辛いかと思いますが、これからも4人の楽しい雰囲気の配信を楽しみにしてます。今はゆっくり休んでください。
50: すーぱーぽてち
2020/08/31 15:34
コメント欄でケンカしてるのが1番虚しいぞ……。
やらかしは確かに酷かったし、
それに対する一部の人間からの誹謗中傷とかもこれまた酷かった。
そう割り切るしかないんや。
ホロアンチとかVチューバーアンチとかも騒いでたから、ホロリスナーはホロリスナー同士で争わんといてくれ。
概要欄にも仲良くって書いてあるじゃろ?尊重したげてな。
やらかしは確かに酷かったし、
それに対する一部の人間からの誹謗中傷とかもこれまた酷かった。
そう割り切るしかないんや。
ホロアンチとかVチューバーアンチとかも騒いでたから、ホロリスナーはホロリスナー同士で争わんといてくれ。
概要欄にも仲良くって書いてあるじゃろ?尊重したげてな。
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